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Presented By: Department of Afroamerican and African Studies

The 1619 Podcast: Episode 4: How the Bad Blood Started

with Discussant Earl Lewis, Director of the University of Michigan Center for Social Solutions and Professor of History and Afroamerican and African Studies

Black Americans were denied access to doctors and hospitals for decades. From the shadows of this exclusion, they pushed to create the nation’s first federal health care programs. On today’s episode: Jeneen Interlandi, a member of The New York Times’s editorial board and a writer for The Times Magazine, and Yaa Gyasi, the author of “Homegoing.”


“1619” is a New York Times audio series hosted by Nikole Hannah-Jones. You can find more information about it at nytimes.com/1619podcast.

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